Why Peyton Manning is the Greatest NFL QB of All-Time

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It’s simple to say that Peyton Manning is the greatest quarterback in NFL history. Many notion for Joe Montana, Tom Brady, or even Ben Roethlisberger above the icon who wears the blue No. 18.  Let me be the one, to point out a few things:

If You Take Them Away From Their Respective Teams

First of all, we have all witnessed what has happened if you take away Tom Brady away from the New England Patriots. Matt Cassel stepped up and led the Pats to an 11-5 record. Now if you tell me Brady is better than Manning one more time, I’ll laugh hysterically. You may point out that Brady has more Super Bowl rings, alright, we will get to that later in this article.

If you looked at clips of the San Francisco 49ers, they were really good. If you take away Joe Montana, they still have guys like Dwight Clark, Roger Craig, and of course Jerry Rice on the squad. They would at least finish 9-7.

We have all witnessed what has happened when Ben Roethlisberger was gone; multiple times actually. This proves the Pittsburgh Steelers are stacked. This season, when Big Ben was gone for four games, the Steelers finished 3-1. With Ben back, they are 2-1, currently standing at 5-2. Needless to say, the Steelers would at least finish 11-5 without Roethlisberger.

Then there is Peyton Manning. We have seen many times what has happened when Manning is gone during the end of the season, or the pre-season. Curtis Painter?  The Colts were 14-0 and benched Manning for 75 % of the last two games of the season against the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills -and the Colts were terrible. Keep in mind, this also lowers the morale of the defense, too. The Colts would easily finish 2-14 or 3-13 without Manning.

Supporting Cast

Many have said that Manning has had a great supporting cast. To start off, the defense Manning has had to put up with would frustrate a lot of quarterbacks. Have you seen the 2006-07 Super Bowl Champion Colts? Manning finished with 31 touchdowns and nine interceptions, but the big thing was that the Colts had the worst rushing defense in the league. Everyone said the Colts will not make it to the Super Bowl, or even past the first round of the playoffs. The defense, along with Manning especially, stepped up and won the whole thing. If you tell me that the supporting cast of the defense was great, you must really be out of your mind. With a defense the Colts have right now this season, they would be 1-6. But here they are, still one of the best teams in the league.

But let’s get to the offense. Many would claim that he had Marvin Harrison. Harrison never had a 1,000-yard season until Manning came in and took over. If it weren’t for Manning, Harrison would probably have around 600 receptions. I read Indianapolis Colts’ columnist Ryan Michael’s article about why Manning is the greatest and he pointed out something very staggering.

Take a look at the averages per season Manning has had with his number one and number two receiver:

Indianapolis Colts Receiving Production (1998-2009 annual averages)

No. 1 receiver: 100 receptions for 1,345 yards and 11 touchdowns.

No. 2 receiver: 70 receptions for 862 yards and seven touchdowns.

The number two receiver equals the same amount of statistics David Boston had in 2003 and what Mike Sims-Walker had last season. When you compare Boston’s and Sim-Walkers’ statistics to the number-two receiver, it looks very very similar. So please don’t think Manning has a great receiving cast.

But many would complain the number two receiver had a great year as Michael pointed out in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2009. Michael made research and removed those season. Now take a look at the average:

Colts No. 2 receiver (1998-2003, 2007-2008)

62 receptions for 721 yards and six touchdowns

That was the production Manning put up with for almost two-thirds of his career, according to Mr. Michael. So did he really have two high all-star caliber receivers? Not necessarily. But when you really look at it, Manning made those receivers great.

Now, many would complain for Tom Brady having to make Deion Branch and Reche Caldwell good.  Branch is by far one of the most underrated receivers in the league. Caldwell? Alright, the guy has butterfingers but many credit Brady for giving him 60 catches in ’06. It’s a 16-game season!  Now if it were in less games like say twelve or so, I would give him credit. Also, take a look at the defense Brady played with. In at least every category, they were in the top ten.

Then there is Joe Montana. Montana by far had one of the best supporting casts. But he has been one of the bests and I can’t let his supporting cast receive all the credit. But he had at least ten superstars on his team that you could mention, maybe even more.

How about Ben Roethlisberger? Come on, the guy had Santonio Holmes, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Antwaan Randel El as big time play makers on offense. Plus, the big part of the Steelers’ success comes from their defense, which has ranked in the top five since Big Ben joined the club. Out of all of these four quarterbacks, Manning, by far, has had the worst defense.

To fully conclude that Manning made his receivers great, look at what Ryan Michael wrote in the article, comparing Harrison before he met Manning and after he met Manning:

I excluded 2007-2008 because Harrison suffered from a knee injury that essentially ended his career.

He wasn’t himself after that injury; so it didn’t honestly capture the degree of productivity he was capable of when playing healthy.

Marvin Harrison (1996-1997, annual average)

69 receptions for 851 yards and seven touchdowns.

Marvin Harrison (1998-2006, annual average)

102 receptions for 1,379 yards and 12 touchdowns.

The differential is staggering.

That’s an average of 33 receptions, 528 yards, and five touchdowns per-season beyond his career averages prior to playing with Manning.

I’m not saying for a moment that Marvin Harrison wasn’t a phenomenal talent.

I’m simply saying there are some instances where it’s more about the receiver making the quarterback better and other instances where it’s more about the quarterback making the receiver better; and while both may be applicable with this instance, there was far more of the latter between Manning and Harrison.

From 1998, the Manning-Harrison combo would become the greatest quarterback-to-wide-receiver tandem in NFL history. Then, you have Manning and Wayne, who now are right up there with the duo and steadily gaining ground as we speak.

Now let’s get to the running games each QB possessed. Manning has had a great set of running backs in his career with Edgerrin James, Dominic Rhodes, and Joseph Addai. Well, first of all, take a look at Manning’s rushing support over the course of his career, thanks to Mr. Ryan Michael:

Indianapolis Colts running game (1998-2009)

423 carries for 1,652 yards (3.9) and 14 touchdowns.

Tom Brady has seen better for his career. In fact, in the 2009-10 season, it was way better than Manning’s career average:

New England Patriots running game (2009)

466 carries for 1,921 yards (4.1) and 19 touchdowns.

And we all know Montana and Big Ben’s rushing support, (ex: Jerome Bettis, Roger Craig, and a young, prime “Fast” Willie Parker).

Now how about the offensive line. Yeah, Manning’s lines have been spectacular, haven’t they been? Manning has only had two offensive linemen elected to the Pro Bowl in his career: Tarik Glenn and Jeff Saturday. That is all. Manning has had probably one of the worst offensive lines in the past three seasons, but yet, he hasn’t been sacked more than 15 times! On the other hand, Ben Roethlisberger has no excuse for his o-line, as Manning has put up with the same thing.

Take a look at Montana’s, Brady’s, or even Brett Favre’s offensive line and come back to me.

Career-Statistics

Many would say Manning is a choke-artist. Before we get to that, let me get this straight; Manning has already passed all of these guys in statistics and none of them will ever catch up to him unless Brady, Drew Brees, or Roethlisberger average at least 30-40 touchdowns a season from here on out. It’s highly unlikely.

Manning, so far, ranks in third place in at least every statistical category:

Yards: 52,044, TD-INT Ratio: 379-183, Comp. %: 64.9, Rating: 95.5

Career Wins: Ranks third all-time, MVP’s: 4 (1st)

There we go, that just shows Manning is the best statistical quarterback in NFL history. He has had only two seasons where he has thrown less than 4,000 yards in a season. While, Brady, Montana, and Roethlisberger have averaged only about 24 touchdowns a season.

Manning has been 9-9 in the post-season, but so what? He came out with a Super Bowl ring. He’s made a fool out of Brady before, hasn’t he? Since the 2005-06 season, Manning has done just that. He first went on a streak to beat the Pats when he beat them 40-21 in 2005-06, then he came back from a 21-3 deficit to beat him in the AFC Championship game in ’07, and after that then he came back from a 34-21 in deficit in the final five minutes of regulation to beat him last season.

One Super Bowl ring is all that counts to make Manning the best. People still consider Dan Marino the best quarterback ever due to statistics. How about Brett Favre? Many think he is one of the best ever and he only has one Super Bowl ring. If Super Bowls rings are what truly  matter, then guys like Terry Bradshaw and Ken Stabler should be in the discussion of the top five greatest QB’s.

Speaking of Favre, he thinks Manning will in fact break all his records. Manning is already on pace with nearly 200 consecutive starts. At least 100 more, which he can easily do, and he’ll break Favre’s record.

When it’s all said and done, statistics do matter. It’s not always about the wins.

According to Michael, Manning has easily outperformed Brady in the post-season for their respective careers:

Peyton Manning (Post-Season Career)

435 of 692 (62.9) for 5,164 yards, 28 touchdowns and 19 interceptions.

QB rating: 87.6

Surprising production for a post-season choke artist; but he’s still no Tom Brady…

Tom Brady (Post-Season Career)

395 of 637 (62.0) for 4,108 yards, 28 touchdowns and 15 interceptions.

QB rating: 85.5

However, many would argue, siding with Brady, mentioning his record-breaking 50-touchdown season. First of all, Brady never had a season like that before. Nothing close to it. Right?  In fact, Brady did not have Randy Moss, Wes Welker, or Donte Stallworth in 2006 like he did in 2007. In essence, this is how he got all his great mind-boggling statistics that season. Along with that, he had to actually “try” and “force” throw a bunch of touchdowns each game.  Running up the score?  I must say. As for Manning, he never have to do such a thing. It only took him like 13 or 14 games to break the record while it took Brady all 16 games, right?

On of top of that, Manning is probably the toughest quarterback in NFL history. Montana, Brady, and Roethlisberger all have missed games due to injury, while Manning hasn’t. In the 2008-09 season, Manning had his worst knee injury ever. According to Peter King of Sports Illustrated, Manning’s knee, which he had a couple of surgeries on, look liked a deformed brain.

At 3-4 during the ’08-09 season, Manning led the Colts to a nine-game winning-streak and made the playoffs. Michael reports the stats concerning that winning-streak:

Peyton Manning (2008: nine-game winning streak)

209 of 290 (72.1) for 2,248 yards, 17 touchdowns and three interceptions.

QB rating: 109.7

Perhaps the highlight of that streak came when he led his Colts to a victory over the eventual Super Bowl champion Steelers; in Pittsburgh, no less.

It was a game in which Manning threw three touchdowns and no interceptions against the league’s No. 1 ranked defense while Ben Roethlisberger (a man whom many considered to be “Mr. Clutch” by the end of the season) threw not a single touchdown, throwing three interceptions against a shaky Colts pass defense.

Was Manning really “Mr. Clutch” and Roethlisberger the “Choke Artist”?

Or did it not matter because it was during the wrong month of the calendar?

After all, we know the Steelers don’t give 100 percent of their effort during important home games in Pittsburgh, right?

Still during the course of this winning streak, Manning continued to break NFL records into December:

Peyton Manning (December 2008)

90 of 110 (81.9) for 1,054 yards, eight touchdowns and zero interceptions.

QB rating: 130.8

His 81.9 completion percentage is higher than what any quarterback has posted during a single month in the NFL’s 90-year history; and he did all of this under the pressure of knowing that each game had “season-ending” ramifications.

To conclude the 2008 campaign, Manning would be awarded the NFL’s MVP.  In 2009  he won another MVP, just like he won back-to-back honors in 2003 and 2004. So he has had two back-to-back MVP award-crowning season. No player in NFL history has had four MVP awards. Doesn’t that also mean he could be the greatest player ever? Let’s not go that far, but what it does prove is this: he is the best QB ever.

Seriously, what more do you want?

Ryan Michael had more in his article:

*Most 300-yard passing games in post-season history (8).

*Most 400-yard passing games in post-season history (2).

*Most passing yards in 1st half of a post-season game (360).

*Most passing yards in a post-season game (458).

*Most post-season games with 20+ completions (14).

*Most post-season games with 30+ completions (4).

*Most completions in a single post-season (97 in 2006).

*One of only two QB’s to complete over 80% of their passes in two post-season games.

*One of only four QB’s to post a perfect QB rating in a post-season game.

*Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (Back from 18 points down in 2006 AFC championship game).

Ask any coach about Peyton Manning and they’ll tell you that if any quarterback has spent two weeks with him, they will seemingly know what it takes to be a professional QB on Sundays.  Peyton has completely crossed the line between coaches and quarterbacks.  Simply put: Manning is the “coach” of the offense. On the contrary, Montana, Roethlisberger, and Brady all had to share success with their “coach”.

With Manning, he made his coaches successful.  He has played under three and has made them all look great; from Jim Mora to Tony Dungy, to now with Jim Caldwell. Manning calls his own plays, unlike any other quarterback in the league. He is the most unique, and the best at what he does at the line of scrimmage.

Manning is easily the most accurate, consistent, productive, statistical, and soon-to-be most winningest quarterback in NFL history. At 34, he easily has at least 7-10 more years to play at a high level. By that time, experts believe he can hit the 75,000 yard-career passing mark (some even consider 80,000!) and over 500 touchdown passes! At the very least ,450 TD passes.  If you believe Favre has been doing quite well at 40, wait until you see Manning at that age!

Manning is the best quarterback right now. Watch his comebacks, in which he has a slew of come from behind victories in his career, and after you’re finished, you may come away considering him to be the “Michael Jordan of the NFL”. For the past decade plus, he has been the NFL’s best player.   And, according to experts, he has been the best for many years.

And he continue to be the best for many more years to come.

Why?

Because he is the greatest quarterback in NFL History.


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39 Responses to “Why Peyton Manning is the Greatest NFL QB of All-Time”

  1. Bobby H. says:

    have you heard of this process called “editing.” you should try it sometime.

  2. Steve says:

    > The Colts would easily finish something like 2-14 or
    > 3-13 without Manning

    What the ****??? To say Indy would be much worse without Peyton is one thing, but to say they would be much worse than the Detroit Lions? You were off to a promising start, but I stopped reading further at this point.

  3. Darnell says:

    I’m still laughing at this nugget of knowledge:

    “The Steelers would at least finish 11-5 without Roethlisberger.”

  4. david says:

    Brady > Manning

  5. Russ Loede says:

    Trey says:
    November 3, 2010 at 4:00 am (Colts Gab)

    Manning is not even the greatest QB playing today, let alone of all time. He is only one of the greateest QBs of all time if you place a higher value on the regular season than you do the playoffs and superbowl. Judge him by his playoff and superbowl performances and he is not even in the top 10. Manning lacks a critical intangible…that cool swagger that it takes to stay cool in the intensity of the playoffs and has proven time and time again that the bigger the game gets, the smaller he gets. As of me, I’ll take the QB who gets better as the games get bigger and has a proven record of leading his team to multiple championships.

    I have to agree with my boy Trey.

  6. Russ Loede says:

    Bobby H,

    Just finished editing this piece from Josh.

    Thanks for the heads up my friend!

    Russ Loede

  7. Christian says:

    Manning has always had top receivers around him with harrison and wayne. Brady hasn’t had that luxury until moss and welker came along.

    Brady > Manning

    Manning will be good for his yearly pick 6 come playoff time when trailing.

    • JackBauer says:

      This is another funny argument. How do you know Harrison and Wayne were so good without Manning? I mean do you even watch football? Did you not see plugging a dude named Austin Collie into this system this year and he was leading the league in receiving before he got hurt. That is the point, it doesn’t matter who is playing receiver for the Indianapolis Manning’s. Last Monday they stuck in TE Tamme and he had 65yds and a TD. LOL. It doesn’t matter Manning makes them Pro-Bowlers.

      And everyone says Manning is a choke artist in the Playoffs? C’Mon. 18-0 and lose in the SUPERBOWL to the Wild-Card Giants? That is the biggest Choke in the HISTORY of ANY sport. PERIOD! And if it were not for the leg of the most clutch kicker in NFL history (Adam Vinatieri) Brady wouldn’t have NEAR the success he has had in the post season.

      Brady has never won a Super Bowl without Adam Vinatieri. And when he went to the Colts guess what the Colts won a SuperBowl!

      Get off Brady’s D**k most overrated player EVER.

    • KLB says:

      Did you forget about Brady’s 3 int gem against the Ravens last year?

  8. CoolHandLuke says:

    Are you serious. Peyton is the second biggest choke artist (after Favre).

    Tom Brady won 3 superbowls with far less talent. Granted the Pats defense was a big part of them winning.

    However, if you look at the 07 season, Peyton could never do that. Brady threw the winning touchdown in the superbowl, but the defense spit the bit. Assante (like Peyton) choked when the moment was there to put the game away.

    • Mandy says:

      It’s not a “winning touchdown” unless they win. Eli Manning threw the “winning touchdown.”

    • KLB says:

      He scored 14 points!!! that is coming through big??? get a clue. he didn’t even deserve his first super bowl. tuck rule my butt!! he had 145 yards passing in his first superbowl and his D bailed him out on every superbowl and playoff game.

  9. CoolHandLuke says:

    Also Manning #8 greatest player of all time…. are you kidding me?

  10. Chris says:

    Sorry pal, but Dan Marino is the best QB f all time, nobody is even close. Take him away from the teams he played on and they are nothing. He destroyed teams with little to no supporting cast. And don’t say Duper and Clayton…they would have been average with any other QB. There has simply NEVER been a QB who could do what he did…

    • Shark839 says:

      And don’t say Duper and Clayton…they would have been average with any other QB

      they would have been AP’s with Payton

    • JackBauer says:

      Yeah I guess it’s hard to sit back in the shotgun and throw 50+ times a game and put up big numbers. Get a new argument. NEXT!

  11. Chris says:

    …and Brady is the best in the game today

    • JackBauer says:

      Wow that’s a funny statment. He looks lost out their since Moss left. Their offense is really struggling compared to the usuall and the only reason their record is 6-1 is because of their Special Teams and big plays on Defense. Their offense hasn’t dominated ANY game this year. And against the Jets in the 2nd half Brady looked absoultely terrible. Manning NEVER looks lost and their offense rarely ever struggles despite using a 4th string running back, losing their All-Pro TE, and having WR’s you’ve never even heard of before Austin Collie leading the league in receiving before he got hurt. If you’re a true football fan and someone asked you what QB would you want running your team I guarentee 97 out of 100 would say Peyton. and the other 3% would be from Boston and be oblivious to any rational thought.

      • NooYawker says:

        Ummm… So… their offense hasn’t been dominating and he looks lost?

        Where the hell have you been in the last 5 or 6 games?

        Additionally, no one mentions that Manning plays in pristine conditions in a dome at least 8 games a year and usually many more, while Brady doesn’t (not even close), I think this is a stupid argument.

        Manning is #2 unfortunately.

        • KLB says:

          Manning played in pooring down rain in his superbowl and brady played in ideal conditions!! give me a break

      • NooYawker says:

        And let’s take a poll on who you want running your offense. I will put down ANY money Brady would win that poll right now.

  12. LOL says:

    Accurate. All you brady cock riders can shut up because people who know far more about the game have weighed in. http://top100.nfl.com/ looks like brady has some work to do.

  13. NYJ says:

    LOL A lot of your conclusions are just silly, but Edgerrin James’ numbers are FAR superior to Roger Craig’s and Manning spent the vast majority of his career throwing to one of the greatest rec ever…Montana had already won two SBs before Rice ever stepped on the field. You dismiss the other QBs bc of their supporting cast, yet when it comes to Manning you reverse the argument. You make it sound like Dwight Clark is a HOFer, when really hebenefitted from Montana way more than the other way around. You want to talk about offensive lines? Montana was sacked 313 times in 192 games vs Manning’s 222 in 199. Take the Man(ing) meat out of your mouth before you write such nonsense.

    • JackBauer says:

      Montana? Are you serious? This is again he product of the system he was in (Bill Walsh) one of the best systems ever. Or was it coincidence that when Montana left Steve Young stepped right in and put up a Hall of Fame career too? Not to mention the 49ers had one of the top D’s during Montana’s reign. And you also are comparing the supporting cast Manning has over Montana? C’mon man. Your boy had the #1 player EVER to throw to according to NFL Network poll. Oh and how did Joe do when he went to KC? exactly what I thought. You better jump on the Manning bandwaggon before you get left behind. NEXT!

  14. coltzz says:

    NYJ…Mannings quick release explains the sacks…lol. Don’t hate just because he knocked your boys out last year.

    Manning + beating your favorite team = alot of Manning haters

  15. JackBauer says:

    All of you commenting saying Brady is the best makes me laugh. He is the most overrated player to ever play the game. You must not actually watch the games when Peyton calls every play himself. Brady has one of the best coaches in history behind him and this truly showed when Brady got hurt and in steps Matt Cassel and leads NE to a 11-5 record and had great numbers, he then goes to KC and is terrible. HAHAHAH that is the only point anyone needs to look at. The system Brady is in makes him decent and all their superbowls are because of their TEAM not Brady. Talk about the biggest choke artist in history, 18-0 and lose the SUPERBOWL to the WILD-CARD Giants!! HAHAHAH that is the biggest choke in the history of sports! BOOM! Peyton’s stats and 10+ seasons with 10+ wins don’t lie. Either do his 4 MVP trophies. You all need to get a clue. Peyton hands down the best QB ever.

  16. sean patrick says:

    payton manning is a good quarterback but he is to busy sucking dockey dicks to play a game and he can not play a game very good at all as soon as he gets mad as proven in the his last super bowl win over the cardnals the only reason they one is because the colts had a very good defense

  17. 2180388 says:

    Manning may be better than Brady for lots of reasons, but the Matt Cassel 11-5 argument against Brady is poor. Brady went 16-0 in the regular season with that same team. That was statistically the best offense in NFL history with Brady on it. 11-5 was a travesty with that offense. 5 More wins is slightly significant. Ryan Leaf could have gone 11-5 with that team.

  18. Russ Loede says:

    Don’t look now, but Matt Cassel is putting up Pro Bowl numbers; similar to those of Tom Brady.

    • KLB says:

      Matt Cassel is the most overrated QB in the league today!!! he is near the bottom if not the bottom in pass yards!! he has the best rushing attack in the game and a lot of TDs came against the worst division in football and they had the weakest schedule in the NFL. which just goes to show you if you put a “game manager” in the right system they will succeed

  19. Sam Gala says:

    Dude, I did not even read your article fully because it is mostly baloney and lack of good analytics. Manning has been playing in a dorm, where as Brady playing at mercy of freaking cold windy wintry weather, still produces great. Bottom line is greatness is somewhat true with stats, but greatness is much higher and respected with stats plus rings. Brady’s magical stats in 2007, was also again where, in wintry cold weather, with enough winds to blow your accuracy to a good extent. And, when Manning plays under wintry condition, he proved to be more pathetic than sharp. I would add some weight to calculation under weather, and put zero weight playing in dorm. Manning still has one ring. He graduated with high GPA in NFL, but Brady, Montana et al, did masters and PhDs in NFL. If you base on stats, when Brady got equally good cast of WR’s, Brady shattered all records. Brady is a superior QB, I would place him at same class as Montana, but I will also place Manning in the same class as Marino. Both classes are good but I will go with class of Brady/Montana in a heartbeat!

    • KLB says:

      Wow it is pretty obvious you know nothing about football!! How about Brady’s offensive line??? least sacked QB in the league in the last 8 years. talking about weather???? what the heck does that have to do with anything??? everybody plays in cold weather eventually. Rings don’t always tell the story. You telling me that Troy Aikman was better than Dan Marino??? can’t tell me that!!

  20. Dave says:

    Peyton Manning is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. But Peyton had the luxury of teaming up with some Hall of Fame quality receivers and running backs – to the credit of Colts Mgt. Tom Brady is the only reason Peyton Manning hasn’t won more than ONE NFL Championship. Peyton Manning’s Indianapolis Colts would probably have won as many Super Bowls as Joe Montana.

    Consider: Tom Brady won his first Super Bowl with the same receivers and running backs that Drew Bledsoe couldn’t win his division with. Drew Bledsoe was supposed to have the same potential as Peyton Manning, but he had lousy receivers and his statistics suffered, and they couldn’t win.

    Tom Brady beat the world 3 TIMES – the first two with recievers that weren’t good enough to sit on the Colts bench, and the third with Randy Moss and Welker – who are arguably as good as Harrison and Wayne.

    Peyton Manning is a great QB – no one can deny it. However, if he had the Patriots 2001 receivers during his first few years, Peyton Manning would have been considered a failure.

    Congrats on painting the picture that you wanted, it may have convinced some people who don’t bother to dig below the surface numbers.

  21. Rob says:

    You say the Colts would do bad without Manning? Well sure Painter didn’t do well against the Jets but the Jets did make the AFC championship game that year and Manning wasn’t doing so hot in that game himself. Also as for comparing how Cassel did to Painter Cassel had a whole season to work with those guys and Painter had what a few snaps? Give Painter a whole season and we will see how well he does especially since that was his rookie season. Didn’t Manning go 3-13 his first season?
    Lets see what Manning’s record is against teams with .500 or better record over his career. it is 9-10 against teams in the playoffs. In the playoffs when his team gives up 21 or fewer points it is 6-6 other greats I seen have at most lost one or two of those games. Brett Favre for one is 13-1 in those situations.