It was a big week of news on and off the field for week 12, and today we are joined by our NFL Insider – Lloyd Vance! Lloyd is back on NFLGridironGab.com with his news and notes around the league. Lloyd, who runs www.takingit2thehouse.com joins us each week to talk about all the hot topics in the league, and give his views and insight as to what is going on. Today we talk to Lloyd about Donovan McNabb and he and Andy Reid’s future in Philly, Michael Vick and his situation, Al Davis, Jim Fassel and the Raiders and what is happening in Oakland. The pair also chat about the Browns and the mess in Cleveland and if it will be “the Chin” coming to the team in 2009, the Lions and what will happen there in the offseason, and the best teams in the league – is it the Titans and Giants? Click below to hear Matt Loede and NFL Insider Lloyd Vance.